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NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« on: April 29, 2010, 01:51:52 PM »

Anybody have a idea on wireing in GPS's into the NMEA 0183 systems ?? huh()
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 02:02:19 PM »

Whats the issue Yoda?

I am no professional, but after finishing the install on my Auto Pilot last week and running what seemed like 1000yds of wire, its pretty fresh in my mind.

I had to splice into the NMEA 0183 wiring of my Lowrance GPS/Sonar to get a Nav and speed signal for the AP.
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 02:55:08 PM »

Here's what I got John, I posted this on "the hull Truth" form

I just installed a Raymarine X-10 autopilot with a ST70 control head. The old system I had
(raypilot 65 System) had a garmin gpsmap 230 and a LCX-15mt wired into it. The LCX running off the Garmin antenna, Well now I can't get the garmin or lcx to pick up any satellites. Does anyone know what wires I need to put togther to get this to work ?
Garmin wire color :White-Blue-green- brown-yellow (green,brown,yellow not used in raypilot 65 system)
Lowrance: Orange-Yellow-Blue-sheild (Yellow and Blue not used in the raypilot 65 system)
The raypilot had a NMEA IN with 2 blades, one marked + and one marked -
The + had the Blue Garmin and Orange lowrance wires to it
the - had the White Garmin and lowrance shield to it
Can't figure out where the GPS antenna wires get hooked to, that is a single center wire then a shield, Set up like vhf antenna wire.
I wouldn't mind bypassing the auto pilot with these 2 units if I can. because I have a Lowrance 7200C with radar that is a NMEA 2000 system that could be hooked into the the X-10 in the future. Thanks in advance for any help offered..
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 05:59:47 PM »

Maybe this will help John
 
Garmin 230 wiring is like this :
Blue = NMEA Out
Brown= NMEA in
White = No connection
Green =No connection
Yellow = Alarm low

X-15 Com 1 is:
Orange = Recieve
Yellow = Tramsmit
Bare wire = Ground

X-15 Com 2
Blue = transmit
Bare = Ground

I want to us the Garmin 230 as the talker
I attach the Blue wire from the garmin to the Orange wire in com 1 of the x-15
Does the GPS antenna wire get attached to the Brown Garmin wire ?
And where does the Shield wire from the x-15 get atteched
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 06:43:29 PM »

Problem I can not get past. You have three talkers, and two listeners. And your Garmin seems to be limited with just one in and one out. I am thinking you may need a multiplexer.
 GPS antenna is talker only. The other two will want to talk and listen. Is the Garmin white and green wires really nothing, or does "no connection" mean you just have nothing hooked to them?
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 08:08:12 PM »

The manual says no connection, the garmin was hooked into the old autopilot, and some how they had it hooked to the X-15, when the garmin locked onto the satillites so did the x-15 . I have the old auto pilot setting infont of me now, it has a connection for NMEA In, with  + and  -
I cut the wires long . it has the shield from the x-15 and white on the - and the blue and orange on the + , just can't figure out where the antenna fits in
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 08:35:54 PM »

"The raypilot had a NMEA IN with 2 blades, one marked + and one marked -"

 This older pilot probably was just a listener.
 Is the Garmin your trying to use, suppose to control the autopilot? Can you engage the autopilot with the garmin and such? Or are you simply just trying to provide GPS info to the pilot? The biggest advantage of the pilot able to talk to the Garmin would be the use of that fast heading compass of the pilot. If the Garmin can even take advantage of that.
 Where are the grounds for the Garmin? None in your list.
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 08:53:48 PM »

 Your Garmin has a dedicated antenna connector on the back. With 1/4 turn locking ring.
 Also you need to make sure the Garmin is set to allow NMEA in/ out in the settings.
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 06:36:36 AM »

Mike your 100% right about the garmin antenna, I don't know why I was thinking it was hooked into the autopilot..
So with that issue solved, I should be able to bypass the autopilot altogether with these 2 older units and still get them to work.
Garmin Blue wire NMEA out, connected to
X-15 Orange Receive wire.
and it looks like the Ground wire from the X-15 was attached to the White garmin (no connection)  for a ground.. How's that sound ?
I should be able to to hook the X-10 autopilot/ST70 to my Lowrance 7200c/ and radar Thur the NMEA 2000 system, that why I would rather leave the 2 older units out of the mix, but still want them to work independently   
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 07:09:35 AM »

Just went out and hooked them up,,, Things are working GREAT.. Thanks Mike
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 07:23:53 AM »

 I am happy to have been a help to you.
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Re: NMEA 0183 and 2000 wireing
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 09:07:19 AM »

The posts in this thread are what this site is all about......Helping out fellow fishermen.... Hats off to you guys for showing how it's done!!!!!! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
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