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Lake Superior / Re: Really interesting Lake Trout sub species
« on: July 29, 2017, 12:20:27 PM »
So are the fish in the video FATs or no? To me they look just like a FAT.

IF you can identify a "Fat" at high frequency just by looking at it swimming around, you are far better than me at fish I.D., or just overly confident!  I wonder what you would have called the hatchery stock fish that the Keweenaw Band tossed in the Lower Harbor a few springs back on first inspection?


Applying your approach would result in calling them redfins...See Figure 2.


https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12862-016-0788-8

For creel, we only have to identify leans vs FATs. So in the picture below the top and bottom fish would be marked FAT. If we are unsure whether its a FAT or lean it gets marked as FAT. Its just the way they run the stat program. Guys on the vessel (lake Char) would have to identify it better than we do.

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Lake Superior / Re: Really interesting Lake Trout sub species
« on: July 27, 2017, 11:38:53 PM »
In Munising at the Pictured Rocks Interprative Center is a fish that looks like that and labeled as a "humper" says supposedly found out off deepwater shoals off shore? Not sure exactly how it was phrased or if it was a local term? I had not heard that reference before.
Its just a nickname they get due to their shape, at least I think thats where it comes from. The guys around here call them that sometimes.

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Lake Superior / Re: Really interesting Lake Trout sub species
« on: July 27, 2017, 07:46:25 PM »
So are the fish in the video FATs or no? To me they look just like a FAT.

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Lake Superior / Re: Really interesting Lake Trout sub species
« on: July 23, 2017, 06:01:23 PM »
Probably a morphotype and not a sub-species...

https://www.fws.gov/midwest/fisheries/scientific-pubs/p-2007-2.pdf

of particular interest is Figure 4. Sub-surface current gyres.

Basically, "genetic drift" accounts for what these guys are catching.  Common on sea mounts in the ocean.  One of the reasons for the offshore planting of lake trout on reefs in Lake Michigan's basin.  These sites are geographically isolated to the point of being small eco-types within the larger lake basin.

Arent these the ciscowets, aka FAT's?

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: June 10, 2017, 01:26:31 PM »
Nick, is anyone doing creel census work in Grand Marais? Manistique?

Greg does Manistique and LBDN

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: June 08, 2017, 07:21:51 PM »
Nick, is anyone doing creel census work in Grand Marais? Manistique?

Grand Marais- yes. Becky, she does GM and Munising. Manistique I dont think so but ill check tomorrow.

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:43:24 AM »
Someone11, If your not "allowed" to work these tournaments, why was Becky your co worker working at the munising tournament on Sunday? Was she going against her bosses wishes? I doubt it.  And for the record, there are many "0's" as you call them at tournaments also.

She could have been. Or she didn't ask and just assumed to work it.

Yes there are 0's at tournaments, but how many of them come to the weigh in and how are we supposed to know they didn't catch anything or they were even fishing the tournament? Easier to get those data plus non tournament data by working the launch and not the weigh in.

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Lake Superior / Re: Unusable AuTrain Boat Launch Report
« on: May 27, 2017, 06:40:59 AM »
Ramp is fixed  :dance:


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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: May 20, 2017, 12:44:20 PM »
The problem with working the tournaments is you skew the data for boats who caught fish and for big fish. We need the data from people who dont catch fish as well-0's are data. Trust me, I asked to work specifically at the weigh in but they said no.

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: May 17, 2017, 01:04:53 PM »
I would definitely lend a hand if I didn't work every weekend. I've been to almost 100 salmon tournaments on lake Michigan. They usually only have a few people working the weigh in and announcing as well, and still separate species. Only takes a split second to identify a fish. Could have more payouts and prizes if you separate species, maybe even more participation. I was just shocked to open the spreadsheet and see "salmon" and "trout" and that's it. Can't even get a fishing report from it. And yes, some people, especially out of town people, will use tournament info to get an idea what the fishing is like in the area.

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: May 15, 2017, 01:07:56 PM »
Man things are so much different up here lol All the tournaments on lake michigan, all species get separated out except for coho and chinook. Big fish prize for everything- browns, lakers, salmon, steelhead.

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South Shore Fishing Association / Re: Shootout results
« on: May 14, 2017, 12:12:08 PM »
You guys don't separate species?

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Lake Superior / Re: Unusable AuTrain Boat Launch Report
« on: May 12, 2017, 11:03:48 PM »
Permits got approved this week it sounded like, they are saying it will be done by the end of the month.

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Lake Superior / Re: Unusable AuTrain Boat Launch Report
« on: April 18, 2017, 09:06:48 AM »
talked to forest service in Munising today they know about it but no timetable to repair it.

Did they say it's simply a time issue for them to repair it, or do they need funds as well?

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Lake Superior / Re: Unusable AuTrain Boat Launch Report
« on: April 10, 2017, 03:57:42 PM »
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