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Gun Talk / UP Gun Collector ?
« on: December 16, 2011, 10:55:34 AM »
Gun Collector
 
You may have heard on the news about a southern California man put under 72-hour psychiatric observation when it was found he owned 100 guns and allegedly had (by rough estimate) 100,000 rounds of ammunition stored in his home.  The house also featured a secret escape tunnel. My favorite quote from the dimwit television reporter: "Wow! He has about a quarter million machine gun bullets."  The headline referred to it as a "massive weapons cache".
 
 
By southern California standards someone owning 100,000 rounds would be called "mentally unstable".

Just imagine if he lived elsewhere:
 
In Arizona, he'd be called "an avid gun collector."
 
In Texas, he'd be called "a novice gun collector or GOVERNOR".
 
In Utah, he'd be called "moderately well prepared," but they'd probably reserve judgment until they made sure that he had a corresponding quantity of stored food.
 
In Montana, he'd be called "The neighborhood 'Go-To' guy".
 
In Idaho, he'd be called "a likely gubernatorial candidate".
 
In Wyoming, he'd be called "an eligible bachelor".
 
In Arkansas, he'd be called "a deer hunting buddy".

And in da UP, he'd be called " ???????????? "

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Off Topic / A Soldiers Christmas in Viet Nam
« on: December 09, 2011, 02:13:03 PM »
A fellow vet just sent this to me today.  Cool Christmas video showing our GI's making the best of it, as they always do .... God Bless them!

I lucked out, arriving in country January 3rd, and back home December 20th, 1969.
 


Best wishes to all on UPA for a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Mike

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Gun Talk / Fast and Furious About Gun Control?
« on: December 07, 2011, 10:48:18 PM »
I'm a regular reader of the Powerline Blog ( http://www.powerlineblog.com/ ) and this was the latest post today.  Very interesting read, and some food for thought.

Was Fast and Furious All About Gun Control?

The Democrats have longed to impose gun control, or confiscation, for decades, but after a series of electoral defeats they finally backed off. The issue has largely receded from view, although gun owners have remained vigilant. For some time, Second Amendment advocates have suspected that the Obama administration’s gun walking program (“Fast and Furious”) was intended to create a pretext for bringing back the gun control issue. There has been a little evidence of that, but not much. Today, however, Sharyl Attkisson of CBS, who has been all over the Fast and Furious scandal and would, in a sane world, get a Pulitzer Prize, broke another scoop:

    Documents obtained by CBS News show that the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) discussed using their covert operation “Fast and Furious” to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.

    ATF officials didn’t intend to publicly disclose their own role in letting Mexican cartels obtain the weapons, but emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called “Demand Letter 3?. That would require some U.S. gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or “long guns.” Demand Letter 3 was so named because it would be the third ATF program demanding gun dealers report tracing information.

    On July 14, 2010 after ATF headquarters in Washington D.C. received an update on Fast and Furious, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, ATF’s Phoenix Special Agent in Charge of Fast and Furious:

    “Bill – can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks.”

    On Jan. 4, 2011, as ATF prepared a press conference to announce arrests in Fast and Furious, Newell saw it as “(A)nother time to address Multiple Sale on Long Guns issue.” And a day after the press conference, Chait emailed Newell: “Bill–well done yesterday… (I)n light of our request for Demand letter 3, this case could be a strong supporting factor if we can determine how many multiple sales of long guns occurred during the course of this case.”

Follow the link, and you can see the emails. I have reviewed hundreds of thousands of emails produced in discovery, and am acutely aware that one should not draw cosmic conclusions on the basis of a few ill-chosen words or random references. We certainly want to be fair to the Obama administration officials who were involved in Fast and Furious. But a fundamental question has never been answered: why in the world did the Obama administration not just allow AK-47s and other weapons to be shipped across the border to Mexican drug gangs, but encourage and even finance such transactions, over the objections of jittery gun shop owners and its own veteran agents? If the Obama administration wasn’t trying to set up an argument for more gun control, then what was it trying to do? That question has never been answered.

If the Obama administration did arrange for the shipment of arms to Mexican drug gangs, not for any legitimate public purpose but in order to advance a left-wing political agenda, and those guns were used to murder hundreds of Mexicans and at least one American border agent–which they were–then we are looking at a scandal that dwarfs any in modern American history. I think one would have to go back to James Buchanan, who ordered the shipment of federal armaments to the South so that they could be commandeered by secessionists when disunion came, to find a worse scandal. And one could argue that even that act by Buchanan, generally considered the worst President in American history, was motivated by principle and not politics, and therefore was not as craven as Obama’s gun walker scandal. But such a judgment would be premature. A great deal more investigation needs to be done before we can conclude that Fast and Furious was the worst scandal since pre-Civil War days.

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Hunting / Trapping / Shocking Behaviour
« on: October 26, 2011, 04:30:11 PM »
Check out what they consider "shocking" in some parts of the country.

http://www.newhavenregister.com/articles/2011/10/26/news/doc4ea850a67eec8718061990.txt


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Off Topic / Salmon BOW 2011
« on: October 13, 2011, 11:33:13 PM »
Every year I am fortunate enough to be part of the Michigan DNR sponsored Salmon BOW weekend at Fairport. BOW means Be an Outdoor Woman, and the ladies that participate are great sports indeed.  This year we had three boats, myself, Jeff Jette, and Mike Herman, and it happened to fall on Dick's tournament weekend. (We didn't participate and with the wild weather, that was a good thing.)  I just completed and uploaded the video of Salmon BOW 2011 to YouTube. Have a look! 

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Classifieds/Buy/Sell / Do It 10# Ball Mold
« on: October 13, 2011, 04:13:56 PM »
I was digging around in the garage and found a 10# Do-It finned ball mold that I used to use.  Went to 12# several years ago. 
It makes these weights    http://do-itmolds.com/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=1_10_76   

One plastic handle is missing off one of the mold locks, but I always used clamps to secure it when pouring anyway.

If anyone is interested, make an offer.

67
Lake Huron / DNR Lake Huron Management Plan (Chinook Salmon)
« on: September 28, 2011, 08:46:29 AM »
MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES
___________
TO: All Fisheries Division Staff
FROM: Jim Dexter, Acting Fisheries Chief
DATE: September 26, 2011
SUBJECT: Chinook salmon stocking reductions in Lake Huron

Over the past 6 years and especially the past 6 months, a tremendous amount of work has ocurred to evaluate Chinook salmon stocking reductions in Lake Huron which were instituted in 2006, and to understand the significant ecological change that has been occurring and is continuing to occur within Lake Huron. The Lake Huron Basin Team and research staff at Alpena, working with both the Lake Huron Citizens Fishery Advisory Committee and our lake agency partners, have worked diligently to distill assessment information collected internally and by our partners, and develop recommendations for the public’s consideration. Lake Huron has experienced huge shifts in the balance between abundance of forage species and predator populations which has resulted specifically in a general lake wide collapse of Chinook salmon
abundance and distribution.

Recreational angler harvest of Chinook salmon in the central and southern main basin of Lake Huron has virtually vanished in less than 10 years. While Lake Michigan Chinook salmon fishing has remained relatively strong, the long-term trend for Lake Huron has distinctly pointed to a need to alter stocking levels of Chinook salmon due to successful natural recruitment in Lake Huron, poor return of stocked Chinook salmon, and what has become an obvious need to reduce stocking efforts to maintain reasonable balance between forage species and predators.

To meet the goals and objectives of the Department, the Division, the Joint Strategic Plan for Management of the Great Lakes Fisheries, and to address the desires of the angling community, the Lake Huron Basin Team has worked to analyze available information and develop a scientifically sound, prudent, and reasonable management action for Lake Huron.  This strategy, while completed internally, was discussed with the Province of Ontario, and theChippewa-Ottawa Resource Authority (CORA) representing the 1836 Tribes who are parties to the 2000 Consent Decree.

Throughout the past six months, public input was sought and incorporated as appropriate into the final recommendation. Three public meetings with anglers and other stakeholders were held in the Lake Huron basin, and a white paper on the subject was posted to the DNR internet
site for public review and comment. The Lake Huron Citizen Fishery Advisory Committee was also included and instrumental throughout the process. The Citizen Fishery Advisor Committees are led by our stakeholders, and members of these committees represent angling groups and communities throughout the basin. This committee should be commended for their dedication and participation in assisting our staff to arrive at reasonable solutions for future management of these lakes.

Based on Lake Huron’s management goals as defined in their Fish Community Objectives document, managers need to work towards a balance between forage species and predators while assisting in native species recovery and maintaining economically and socially important
fisheries. Managers also recognize the value and contribution of natural reproduction and the effects that can have on stocking needs. The stocking recommendations proposed by the Lake Huron Basin Team has been generally accepted by the angling community. This strategy calls
for implementation in 2012 of a reduction in the number of Chinook salmon stocked in Lake Huron by nearly 48%. This strategy is large enough to be measured statistically by our assessment programs. Historically stocked locations in Lake Huron, primarily those sites south of Rogers City, will have Chinook salmon stocking suspended for the near future. In the event that there are significant shifts in the ecology of the lake, future stocking of these locations may be warranted.

Specifically, the recommendations that I am approving include:

1. Continue to stock Nunn’s Creek (St. Martin’s Bay) annually with 250,000 spring fingerlings
2. Continue to stock the Swan River, but at a reduced rate of 375,000 spring fingerlings
3. Continue to stock the Cheboygan River annually with 68,000 (Level 2) spring fingerlings
4. Suspend CHS stocking at all other locations on Lake Huron
5. Continue to evaluate key biological indicators over the next 5-6 years and make appropriate interim stocking adjustments as necessary
6. Investigate the possibility of establishing partial and/or permanent creel collection at the port of Cheboygan

We now understand quite clearly that where Chinook salmon fisheries continue to occur in Lake Huron that the vast majority of those fish are being naturally  produced. Continuing to understand this dynamic will be a key principle in helping managers determine future management scenarios using stocked fish. Our commitment as a Division to the angling public is to assess and evaluate the Chinook salmon fishery over the next six years, employing mass marking of salmon for at least the next three years to understand as best we can the contribution of site specific stocking and natural reproduction.

It is very important for staff to convey to stakeholders that this reduction in stocking levels and locations does not necessarily equate to reduced fishing success. Because of the high levels of natural recruitment occurring in Canadian waters of Lake Huron, the ability of fisheries to
respond to enhanced levels of forage can occur quickly and result in improved fishing success.  Over the past few years we have witnessed increasingly good fishing for Chinook salmon in the  northern waters of Lake Huron, and this success appears to be related to naturally produced
fish. Without complete creel census in northern Lake Huron, we are currently unable to determine the contribution that stocked fish may be having in some locations. If you have any questions regarding the recommendation, please speak with Todd Grischke, Lake Huron Basin Coordinator, or Dave Borgeson or Jim Baker, Management Unit supervisors for Lake Huron. These staff know the details behind these plans and can provide you with additional nformation. It is also important that this information is distributed and explained if necessary to our creel clerks as they are the frontline with the stakeholders. It is important that clerks who are uncomfortable with their knowledge of this information at minimum provide the correct contact for the individual to gain the information requested.

Lake Huron Chinook Salmon Stocking Reduction Plan
 


cc: Natural Resource Commission
Rodney A. Stokes, Director, DNR
Kelley D. Smith, Acting Natural Resources Deputy, DNR
Mark Hoffman, Chief Administravtiuve Officer, DNR
Gary Owen, DNR
Russ Mason, DNR
Lynne Boyd, DNR
Gary Hagler, DNR
Ron Olson, DNR


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Off Topic / 911 Boat lift
« on: September 18, 2011, 12:19:18 PM »
Almost 500K people were rescued by water in less than 9 hours from Long Island. Incredible!  The video is an amazing and a true testament of people coming together to do what needed done.


http://youtu.be/18lsxFcDrjo

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Classifieds/Buy/Sell / Pakron Reel
« on: September 14, 2011, 12:23:44 AM »
I have an old Pakron 3178 wire line reel that I would like to get operational again, but the drags don't work.  Does anyone know about these reels and how the drag system works?  It looks pretty simple but I can't get it to work.

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Lake Huron / New Article - Salmon Disappear from Lake Huron
« on: August 27, 2011, 08:03:34 AM »
Just received in an email from a friend this AM.

August 27, 2011    http://detnews.com/article/20110827/METRO/108270353
 
 
Salmon disappear from Lake Huron, towns suffer
 
DAVE SPRATT
/ Special to The Detroit News
 
Harbor Beach — Jack Noble looks over the rows of ramshackle, empty docks that house a handful of boats at Offshore Marina and can't help thinking of busier times on Lake Huron.
 
"This place used to have a waiting list to get a slip," said Noble, 75. "Now there's five boats. At one time, there were 19 or 20 charter boats in this town. Now there is one. This town is dead. We don't even have a grocery store. … And it's not the economy. It's the fishery."
 
Just a decade ago, that fishery was ruled by king salmon. From Lexington in the south to the Straits of Mackinac, charter captains charged eager anglers hundreds of dollars to catch hard-fighting, great-tasting kings until coolers were brimming with fish.
 
Today, southern Lake Huron is virtually devoid of king salmon, thanks to food web changes wrought by invasive species like zebra and quagga mussels.
 
The salmon, simply put, have been starved out. Officials estimate that each port city on southern and central Lake Huron has lost more than $1 million in annual revenue that was generated by salmon fishing.
 
Dan Oglenski, 18, grew up in Harbor Beach and has been Noble's steadiest fishing partner since he was 12. He has seen one chinook salmon at the end of a fishing line, about six years ago.
 
"It got away," he said.
 
Michigan's Department of Natural Resources still plants more than 1 million king salmon — also known as chinook salmon — into the lake each year. Most are eaten by other fish well before they reach fighting size.
 
This year, the state acknowledged its Lake Huron salmon-stocking program is no longer working.
 
The department is proposing eliminating seven of nine planting locations, reducing annual chinook stocks to 730,000 and undertaking studies to determine if another high-profile predator could restore Lake Huron to its former fishing glory.
 
The final decision on stocking is due in October.
 
Cutting the salmon stock makes sense to Noble, president of the Thumb chapter of the Michigan Steelheaders Club.
 
But anglers and the few remaining charter captains worry the state will take the $200,000 it saves from salmon and dump it into fisheries programs in Lake Huron's glitzier neighbor — Lake Michigan. Last year, Michigan spent $7 million to stock 5.8 million fish of all species in lakes Michigan, Huron, Superior and Erie. The money comes from fishing license fees and excise taxes on fishing gear.
 
"The last time (2006) they cut salmon stocking by 50 percent and that money went right to Lake Michigan or some other project," Noble said. "It sure as heck didn't go to Lake Huron, and the same is true now. They don't give a damn about Lake Huron."
 
Anglers like Noble would like to see other species like steelhead, brown trout or Atlantic salmon take over the state's stocking efforts, but officials said stocking those species is too expensive and that it makes no sense to put fish into Lake Huron without knowing whether they'll find food.
 
"We are not going to just dump fish into the lake and hope they find something to eat," said Todd Grischke, the acting Lake Huron Basin coordinator.
 
Unintended consequences
 
Coho and chinook salmon were introduced into the Great Lakes in the 1960s to control alewives, which were dying cyclically and spectacularly, periodically covering beaches with rotting fish carcasses.
 
The salmon did their job and then some — knocking back alewives and forming the basis for a multibillion-dollar sport-fishing industry that thrives in Lake Michigan.
 
But invasive species began interacting in Lake Huron in ways no one predicted.
 
Mussels filtered out phytoplankton, a small food matter eaten by tiny critters that in turn are food for alewives. Salmon cleaned out alewives by 2003, and soon the hunter became the hunted. Without alewives, predators found new prey: newly released young salmon.
 
Something isn't working
 
The state noticed a problem in 2005, and the following year cut stocking in half to the current level. But even they didn't expect the grim numbers that have shown up in creel reports since then.
 
Lakewide, fewer than five of every 1,000 stocked salmon are caught by anglers. It's even lower in southern ports like Harbor Beach.
 
Noble and the Thumb chapter of Michigan Steelheaders began agitating a few years back for the state to stop the failing chinook program and try something — anything — else.
 
For two years now, the Thumb Steelheaders have raised steelhead — rainbow trout that live in big waters and return to rivers to spawn — in net pens. They've released 30,000 fish in two years with few casualties (49 died in the pens). Upon release, the 5-inch-to-11-inch fish bolted past the walleye gauntlet and into deep water.
 
Their success helped persuade the state to start a three-year study on the effectiveness of pen-rearing steelhead. A total of 100,000 steelhead went into Lake Huron this year.
 
Finding the right predator
 
The study isn't the only one the state is undertaking to find the right predator for Lake Huron and its anglers.
 
A brown trout study is in its third year. The state is also looking into Atlantic salmon, which have been successfully stocked in Lake Ontario.
 
Another species that may see a restoration effort is lake herring, a native that was commercially fished out of many parts of Lake Huron. Anglers and biologists agree that restoring lake herring makes sense because they're fun to catch, good to eat and could provide an important food source to predators.
 
First things first
 
Grischke cautioned that switching fish stocks isn't as simple as it seems.
 
Chinook salmon are cheap and easy to raise in hatcheries, he said, while the others may need more space, colder water or other conditions that can raise the cost of rearing them to more than $5 per fish.
 
"Rearing salmonids to a lay person is just get rid of one and get another," Grischke said. "But that's not at all the way our hatchery system works."
 
For Noble, the solution is plain. His group has shown it can raise steelhead, and he said if given half a chance they could raise Atlantic salmon, too. Both species seem better suited to the existing food supply, according to state biologists.
 
But it will likely be several years before studies are done and the state decides on a course for Lake Huron. That's not soon enough for Noble.
 
"I do not expect to see the kind of fishery that I knew here 10 years ago in my lifetime because of the DNR and their damn foot-dragging," he said. "I would very much like to see my grandchildren have the same opportunity in Lake Huron. But they won't bite the bullet and do what they have to do."
 
Dave Spratt is a freelance writer and editor of www.greatnorthernoutdoors.net.
 
Additional Facts
Winners and losers
 
Since 2000, Lake Huron has undergone dramatic food web changes that started when billions of zebra and quagga mussels coated the lake bed and filtered out the life-giving phytoplankton. The lake’s food web is still sorting itself out, but here are some of the winners and losers so far:
© Copyright 2011 The Detroit News. All rights reserved.

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Lake Michigan / Fairport Thursday evening - 25 August
« on: August 25, 2011, 11:40:39 PM »
7 for 9 tonight with a few in the teens but most were small.  Oil Slick Eyefly got a few, meat rig with MC Rocket, Flounder Pounder, and Rachet Jaw.  Fished the Point and east, 75 to 115, 45 to 70 down.  Fish are still silver.  Looks like maybe a few good weeks yet.

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Lake Michigan / Fairport Rider(s) - Crew
« on: August 02, 2011, 08:45:25 AM »
Just got back from 2 weeks in PA for family stuff and am now discovering the only downside to retirement..... haven't made enough retired friends yet to go fishing when I want ;D

I am heading to FP tomorrow (Wednesday) and need 1 or 2 to make a crew for Wed evening, Thursday and Friday.  My daughter is coming from GB Friday for the weekend and we would also like 1 person through the weekend. My boat is in Dick's marina and the camper across the street.

If interested and available, send me a PM here or call at 228-5381.  Maybe we can find some fish ??????????

Mike

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Lake Michigan / Surface Temp Accuracy?
« on: July 02, 2011, 10:14:29 AM »
Just checked the MSU Coastwatch website for the surface temperature in Northern Lake Michigan.  It shows 40 to 43 near Pt Detour and as low as 35 south of Manistique.  Doesn't seem possible that it could have gone that cold, from mid-60's yesterday.  It would be cool if someone fishing Saturday AM reports back to verify, or discredit the accuracy.  Thanks.

http://www.coastwatch.msu.edu/michigan/m1.html

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Classifieds/Buy/Sell / Cheap Reels
« on: June 16, 2011, 03:04:00 PM »
If anyone is in need of some cheap non-line counter reels, I just saw this ad on line for Okuma Classics.  I have four that I have had for several years, and want to get rid of them and upgrade, but they won't break or quit working.  Just thought I would mention it since they work very well, and are very cheap.

http://www.jandh.com/p-152-okuma-classic-series-conventional-reels.aspx

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Off Topic / BOW - Be an Outdoor Woman
« on: June 14, 2011, 09:02:24 PM »
The 2011 BOW Salmon weekend has been announced and is posted on the DNR website here:

http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/BOW_salmon_fishing_355430_7.pdf

It will be August 12-13-14 at Fairport.  If you know of anyone who might be interested in participating, please pass this along to them.

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